Attorney Stanley Hilton has filed a civil lawsuit on behalf of hundreds of Americans who believe the Bush government ordered the 9-11 attacks. Mr. Hilton says during his interview that he has copies of National Security Council documents which prove Bush ordered the 9-11 attacks. In answer to a question, Mr. Hilton responded regarding the documentation proving Bush ordered the 9-11 attacks: National Security Council classified documents Bush personally ordered it and it was as part of a series of documents that were involved with the [military] drill documents. This is all; they have it on video tape. These planes were controlled by remote control. As I said previously a year and a half ago, theres a system called Cyclops theres a computer chip in the nose of the plane which enables the military ground control to disable the pilots control of the plane and to control it and fly it directly into those towers. Thats what happened. Its also technology used in whats called the Global Hawk which is an aircraft drone a remote [controlled] aircraft they were doing it. The documents are National Security Council classified documents which clearly indicate that [Global] had the green light to order this to go and this is no drill. These drills that were run it was clearly a dress rehearsal and this was all a government operation. If you wonder why people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate people who are bringing this suit, I mean I guess if you murdered 3,000 of your own citizens
as Bush did, and if you then waste billions more on a worthless, garbage war in Iraq, I guess youve got something to worry about you [Bush] want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Doles chief of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll out half of New Yorkers think the government was involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, its great to have you on with us.
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: Well have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, youve deposed a lot of military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.
AJ: Thats right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people and youve got your $7 million dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victims families involved
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and incriminating evidence youve got of them ordering the attack? SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers class action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, weve got to break. Lets come back and get into the evidence.
BREAK AJ: Alright my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. Its an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Doles former chief of staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. Hes suing the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims families signing onto it its a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then lets get into the new evidence. And then well get into why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect.
Its not just incompetence in spite of the fact that he is incompetent.
The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, seen on television the first plane attack the first tower. And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government ordered thing.
We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity.
And Ive been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30-years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI.
My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out five separate drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning which you told us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, weve learned that all these operations I want to get into that, I want to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they wont release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment are you going through? SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And its just total harassment.
They have planted a spy, an undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words, these are Nazi Germany tactics.
This is the kind of government you have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, Bob Doles former chief of staff. Well come back after this quick break. Please stay with us.
BREAK AJ: Alright, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Doles former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention. And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge, were going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more interviews. And now hes back doing interviews. Hes had his office broken into, FBI threats and harassment.
Bottom line, he has deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, thats why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And Ill tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And hes got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just did his lawsuit and wasnt doing interviews, it was because he was ordered to.
Stanley, can you get into that for us? SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I have the lawsuit.
And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some programs and some publicity and
July 1st, I was threatened directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline. This particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the other federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to try and discipline me after Ive been on the court here for 30-years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to dismiss this.
Whats this? She doesnt like the content of it. This is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case? And they threatened me directly and they said, the next time youll be disciplined. And also theyve threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is just outrageous
AJ: Its all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny its because of the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcrofts Justice Department. I got a call from Ashcrofts Justice Department a few months ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it.
AJ: Now lets go back over, you had them break into your office, harassment. Lets go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents I had regarding the fact that the some of these hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this lead up to the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration, basically. Thats the entity that he called al Qaeda.is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen.
Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And thats whats happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away.
AJ: Now, lets talk about what they want you to drop. Lets talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really happened, the picture youve got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were simulations on that morning. Lets go over what they dont want you to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first building on the video. And thats not possible because there was no official video of that. There was one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one.
We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there the night before September 10th, that is
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on the CIAs own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning. Now, weve learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning. Thats why NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. Youve said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you cant get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned of this? SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole. Im very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the exact location
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. Thats the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers going, Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill? SH: Yes.
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a drill.
SH: Thats right. Thats exactly what I said long before it became public.
Ive known about this since earlier in March of 03, as I stated before.
This was all planned. This was a government ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and now look whats happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me in Duke Law School in the early 70s and its interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today somebody guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings said it all over television Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running all these drills that morning. Even if they werent involved, that proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
SH: Well, Im trying to take their depositions Ive been trying to take their depositions for months. Theyve been trying to object to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now. Its clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; thats what they are.
These are the people that we have running this government and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now that they didnt know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody knew anything. Its the old know nothing mentality. And how anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
AJ: Alright, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you.
Its real simple. Its what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a half ago. Its what came out in the news after that. The military, good people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to quote do something. Our inside sources from Hilton and others say it was a stand down and they admit they will not release that under national security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, theyre going to release it in the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S.
because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this information.
Thats why they are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts of treason and mass murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that? SH: (laughs) Im not planning suicide. Ive got family and Im not planning that but I dont like the threats Im under but I can tell you this, its taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being under the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence that Ive been adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean thats what we have a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending hes a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And its pretty disgusting because the other side of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because theyre afraid to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. Well be right back.
BREAK AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then hes got to go into court. Bob Doles former chief of staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs most of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero I had family, I worked in the buildings, my sons a Navy Seal he called the night before and said dont go to work. You know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea and it turns out they had all these drills and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show before it was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley, lets get specifically into the documents that you have now got that they have now been robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies.
Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us ordering 9/11? SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled] and its was part of a series of documents that were involved with the drill documents. This was all planned they had it on videotape. These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year and a half ago, theres a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military ground control, to disable the pilots control of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into those towers. Thats what happened. Its also a technology used on whats called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone a remote-controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking about National Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a government operation. You wonder why these people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess youve got something to worry about and you want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean lets look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesnt know whats happening. But its now coming out, even in mainstream news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So since thats going on, everybody knows that. And its the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza pallor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, Youre not going to bomb the building? They go Yeah, were letting it go forward. He tapes them to protect themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didnt park it up against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it didnt bring down the tower because you have to be right up against the column.
That doesnt happen. Yet, its the same thing with 9/11. Youve got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station mainstream media, out creating their legends for this background. Theyre on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate? SH: Its one of the things that we are looking into that nerve gas or something else disabled people. Its possible. I cant say for sure to be honest with you
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like a classic decoy. Ive got some military background. And its called decoy. Its a decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue sitting in the oval office. Thats the guilty person. Thats the one who authorized it. There is only one man who could have authorized this operation and thats Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to do this kind of thing and thats Bush. Even though many believe hes a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered and hes guilty and liable and hes going to be re-elected apparently because the medias asleep and [garbled] for Bush.
AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldnt even steer that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up.
BREAK AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to these military men and women, whats their attitude? Theyve got to be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know its like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk under subpoena but only under subpoena because the official party line of the government is shut up and dont talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are very outraged that part of the government has done this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see something not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also weve got we have a Stalinist mentality in this country.
And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, its disgusting.
I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on September 11th.
They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks ago. Ill be on that. I wish of course, the America media dont care so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are very serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a website now, called deprogram.info, if more people are interested: www.deprogram.info.
But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me - and I dont know why because Im being threatened here now. And it seems you cant bring a case in this country anymore against criminals in power without being threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes are pretty high when youve got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this government against its own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have carried out more attacks if we wouldnt have done what weve been up to, if you wouldnt have been out there boldly speaking out and many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who are speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry out what theyve been hyping a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know its a catch 22, youve got to expose the murderers. Weve got to get the word out on this but some government people that Ive talk to say, Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more hard core and must totally try to take over. But I say regardless, they are already doing that. So what do you say to that? SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency plans.
I think they are laying low now because there are an increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done it again if we had not spoken up. I think theyre planning, what they would like to do is silence any dissenters. Thats why we are trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.
AJ: Lets talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when youve got a Zogby poll, who is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government was involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high as 76% in polls believe the government was involved. European polls, two-thirds show the same thing. We have German defense ministers and technology ministers and another member of their government now, three of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives. You have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if they didnt do it, they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their official story is impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved in it.
Comments to this massive awakening and whats happening.
SH: Well, I think thats why they want the Patriot Act to suppress political dissent. They have to, theyre anticipating, they are not dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated political dissent.
And thats why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, theyre all for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has done this they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, thats why we have the Patriot Act. So its hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a political suppression mechanism in the law. And thats why they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is to make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany and the Communist Russian. Thats the goal
AJ: Youve got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, theyre against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for martial law.
SH: Well, thats right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, its like the word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody can be called a terrorist by Bushs definition. But the irony is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White House at the oval office today. Thats the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful. Its like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting America is a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological testing of every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean its just all happening, its in our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, its very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who was Hitlers armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in Munich. And Ive studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism and there is no question that its very frightening. And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by corrupt, technologically oriented government - an elite government. And theyve got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didnt have, which is the technological means to dominate not only their own country but others the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face this horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of us, know the truth? SH: Well, thats why they want repression and, then again, the ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch it away.
I mean who knows what theyll do next. I mean their capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of untraveled. I mean there is no limit.
My guess is they are going to try another stunt maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is theyll try some other tactic to get peoples attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention. What you really want is for the public to just lose interest because the public - and its like remember the Alamo, you know, people dont forget things like that. To me its like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous act of treason. Thats what it is. Its not
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I dont think they anticipated this much resistance, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people are going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and our military, and eventually we can get people under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others. People couldnt recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their slaves to invade the planet. And thats their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know youve got to get to court.
God bless you. I want to thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back on next week? SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments? SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House and the danger for the future that these sort of individuals pose. This is not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the government. They have not captured the peoples minds and they are counting on us not facing up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them.
Thats what they are counting on.
AJ: But youre not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, Im not AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.